Lt Gen PJS Pannu | PVSM | AVSM | VSM | Fmr Deputy Chief Indian Integrated Defence Services |
- Former Deputy Chief Indian Integrated Defence Staff (Operations) responsible for coordinating military operations of the three services.
- He was responsible for raising the Defence Space and Cyber Agencies, as well as the Special Forces Division.
Podcast
Overview
In this episode, PJS Pannu talks about his leadership style and gives valuable insights into how the Indian army is preparing itself to combat China and Pakistan.
00:47- About Lt Gen PJS Pannu and his journey.
- Former Deputy Chief Indian Integrated Defence Staff (Operations) responsible for coordinating military operations of the three services.
- He was responsible for raising the Defence Space and Cyber Agencies, as well as the Special Forces Division.
- He conducted the first-ever space exercise in India nicknamed IndspaceX in 2019.
- He served three tenures in the Military Operations Directorate at Army Headquarters and on two UN missions, Mozambique and Sudan both as Chief Operations Officer.
- He was the Chairman of the Executive Committee of CENJOWS (Centre for Joint Warfare Studies) and USI (United Services Institute) of India, both premier Defence Think Tanks.
03:00- About your leadership style.
- Leadership style changes as you grow. From a platoon commander to becoming a three-star general, every role demands different kinds of expertise.
- At the top level, you are creating conditions for success. When you are a junior leader, dependency on a small team rises.
- A commanding officer works on 99 styles.
12:01- Do you see India developing a space force as a part of defence?
- In The militarisation of space If you can dominate the space, from space you can dominate the ground.
- The three paradigms of space include space warfare, space-based programs, and space-supported operations.
- Space warfare means what satellites versus satellites and what happens above the carbon line.
- Space-based programs: Whatever is happening in space is used to alter the course of warfare or decision-making on the ground.
- Space-supported operations: everything is happening on the ground; space remains medium.
28:39- About your book, The Power of Future Machines.
- The Power of Future Machines is a collection of essays by experts exploring the future impact of Artificial Intelligence (Al) in various fields of human endeavour.
- Building upon the dialectical and analytical framework provided in the book Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Power: 5 Battlegrounds, experts from various fields (military, geopolitics, strategic affairs, physics, policy and others) engage and describe for a wider audience the potential impact of Al.
- Given their specific vantage points and deriving from their areas of expertise, this anthology makes for a fascinating read.
- The essays discuss how Ai will affect policy making, both in narrow areas of expertise as well as its effect on humanity at large.
- Aimed at policymakers, experts and also a broader audience, these varied perspectives on Al add something vital to the current skewed Al discourse.
31:25- Lessons from the conversation.
- The leader must know to be able to show the way to instill confidence and to have conviction.
- Loyalty comes only if you have given your people human dignity.
- Army is not a profession; it is a way of life. The practice goes much beyond what people see from the outside.
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Profile
- Former Deputy Chief Indian Integrated Defence Staff (Operations) responsible for coordinating military operations of the three services.
- He was responsible for raising the Defence Space and Cyber Agencies, as well as the Special Forces Division.
- He conducted the first-ever space exercise in India nicknamed IndspaceX in 2019.
- He served three tenures in the Military Operations Directorate at Army Headquarters and on two UN missions, Mozambique and Sudan both as Chief Operations Officer.
- He was the Chairman of the Executive Committee of CENJOWS (Centre for Joint Warfare Studies) and USI (United Services Institute) of India, both premier Defence Think Tanks.
